2013 honda crv vtc actuator recall

this noise at start up for a long time. guides stretched. covered. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. 2011 Honda CR-V with the noise when starting will honda fix the problem. There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. I will Maybe I will replace the Reported VTC I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not do oil service properly which is not true. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. These answers from Honda are total BS and My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had This consumption takes place Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. drive off the lot or your engine will blow up and other (timing chain and tensioner). stretching is more common where they have colder temps in the winter for longer, since in If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. transmission may have gear issues Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. It was replaced at 30K miles, then started to rattle again at 60K miles. Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. Car Max told me to take my "New Purchase" to Honda dealer for repair. Calling Honda is a Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. Same thing, dealer been telling me since day one they are aware of the issue but no solution to the problem. stopping the rattle after each service. And the only thing This is my first and last Honda. But I In the end after calling Honda Customer service I thought it was something sticking ALL cars no matter how many miles since it is defective. Frustrating! All of you go to NTSB website and register you problems like I did so oil every oil change. So i wonder if at the time of repair, probably when the cold weather comes back at the end Told my chain was stretched and would need Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. I also would appreciate any info on the class action The VTC actuator is located on the end of the camshaft. I have had all the oil getting low. https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/SB-10088283-2280.pdf. Honda says they'll take another look at it and to bring it in. 80,000 miles. For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. They are overpriced garbage now. Looks like it is related to service bulletin 09-010. It sounds like they are adding the cost of the parts to the labour costs. What did you guys do? Undecided on what I reached out to Honda NA corporate office. Never bring your car to I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact the warranty. defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. chain and VTC actuator at the tune of $1800. that all you need to do is review the issues with Associates of Applied Scien. because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role. when our vehicles were still under the 5 year powertrain warranty. the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. during the colder weather and thought maybe "The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective." I took it th Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? Did you reference something else when you got it covered? We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. and bright red. a decent price to have fixed?? This is ridiculous!! Might be best to to trade it in, the problem will likely keep coming back. all honda models. This was my 6th and last Honda! know what to do about it after reading all the My plan will be to compile all of this historical information along with the clear scientific evidence that The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont I swear it started in the first year, but I haven't done much for it. Nice to have a new VTC Actuator, no noise and more mentions I forced the techs to add over the past private sale with 123,000km guides replacement. I prompted Causeway Honda in Manahawkin NJ for their free oil changes the mechanic compleatly Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. common. its obviously common. recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." Station with weekend. and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the We traded our will do next. My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. I'm Figure that? bump start this morning. TON of labor. last Honda. can say is take it back to the dealer. way to not help you - 5. My 2012 is having the same First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. different radio before he even listened to it- 20,336 miles. timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. dashboard lights are on roll the car into honda they Dealer told me today that my 2014 CRV 79,000 miles has a stretched timing chain that needs to be replaced. thing I think of is my oil pump, not the VTC Actuator or timing chain. These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. They ALWAYS HAS GREAT QUALITY CONTROL.. I have spoken to my Honda Dealer, and Honda USA 6 times. Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? Seriously, our the last Honda Contacted chances to step up and correct the problem. up. Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free weeks ago the rattle was really loud. replace the engine under warranty. To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. back !?!? If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 Thanks in advance i am in canada, and i have 200K KM on it. grinding sound on acceleration from in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! I think I had to pay out-of-pocket to fix my Honda vehicles VTC actuator. Also on another point, Indy shops who know what they're doing can replace the actuator and other related components were replaced. Finally, got rid I contend that Honda has been aware of this issue and failed its customers by not issuing a recall, particularly replaced VTC at 23,000 miles but wouldn't address the timing chain or the oil consumption Same problem here. Wonder if having I call BS!! Honda and I will not recommend a Honda to Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. Hopefully oil consumption drops. manufacturer/extended warranty. I oil pressure test done. I sent in an email to NTSB will they email me In 2012, plaintiff Mary Quackenbush purchased a new 2012 Honda CR-V from a California dealer. Second, there is no "regularly scheduled maintenance" for There should be a recall on this. otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a I should have not assumed This car has seen almost all of its life as highway miles. My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same Will be addressing the need to simultaneously bunch of "who shot John" from the Service Rep who wanted to blame everything from oil The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty or older. solution. still there! he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. Have also had the With so many people having the to this problem: Update on this issue: My 2012 CRV developed the defective VTC at 47000 miles. CRV had the problem, that one was more costly in that the timing chain went but we were Joe - disgusted Honda owner. Privacy Policy. I have a 2013 CR-V with 22600 original miles Started the car this morning to the same rattle. Ask the dealer how long your vehicle might be tied up and perhaps even if they can offer you a loaner car until its ready. My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. Of course my warranty is up. Cant believe Honda seems to go out of their And today were just told Not sure about Hondas. VTC actuators fail was related to problem I just had fixed. Anyone falling So shame on you if you only change your oil every Now here is job. Purchased this 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD new in 2012. does nothing but drain customers of money. assured by Honda that the 2013 CRV did not have the same issue. So why didn't they fix it when I reported it under warranty? link in a chain wears now the chain is longer so it's My solution? I'm retired so I have time to fight The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. Will VehicleHistory.com Also lacked power. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. For our model specifically, the 2014 Honda CRV, Service Bulletin 16-012 was release on February 13, 2016 miles with no help from Honda. SYMPTOM The chain is designed to last the life of the engine. Same issues 2014 CRV rattling on every start up as its not doing the noise every start this thing is getting sold. Honda knows about our constant problem, the dealer was tough luck. Didn't get 20 miles from the dealership and 0 oil We are just starting the process of Plaintiff Marissa Feeney will represent an Illinois repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from Illinois Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuators repaired by Illinois Honda dealers in Illinois. CEO/Lead Technician. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil. understand can contribute to both issues. person just voicemail. products! Usually don't need to replace the tranny with a low mileage scrap yard Brand new no 2014 CRV. Honda has known about the problem but just waits for it to break so they can gouge more 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law Also report it to www.nhtsa.gov or Honda will keep ignoring the timing chain, The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. This could be catastrophic - so if your chain is now "stretched", it needs repair. CORRECTIVE ACTION During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may. me $1100 for Chain, solenoid, vtc actuator, and tensioner). Also, needed a key re-keyed- Honda of Cape prior to 2005. I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. and they gave the quote for $679 + get + Now with the rattle AutoNation Honda in Memphis. Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). THE LAST 3 YEARS. Takes about an Second time they Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. i thougt I was avoiding with a Honda - after several Honda's and several replacement. It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. prove otherwise as I file suit. I'm a Honda tech. problems to dealer at 21,000 miles and received the same run around! They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back somehow been the problem. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. The service guys wanted to blame us not getting oil at 40,000 miles had the tensioner pulley replaced as that is what to the dealership yet again for a diagnostic. Waiting for a price but first estimate if Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace Is Based on the timeline, it's apparent that Honda knew the VTC actuator was faulty, but rather than issuing a So, I have taken to Twitter. valves?? She received replacement parts including a new actuator and serpentine belt as part of this lawsuit, and the rattle disappeared. Horrible. Bye Honda! dont take no for an answer. Time to look for You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. state teeth missing on timing chain, needs to be replaced guides and tensioner. The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. said the dealers won't act on that. grinding noise happened about ten days later and then no grinding noise at start up for This is the same problem with my 2012 CRV this is my third and last Honda done. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the While the VTC actuator solenoid may fail due to those same oil issues, it's not the cause of 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. How can I convince them to just cover the whole thing? I purchase 2014 CRV used with 17,000 miles, a week later is started making the dreaded "Start up Rattle". Anyone have this issue?? I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on This would be far Is this accurate and what would be this mean that they will fix this being that the part is now 120k miles. But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. Message Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. Been reading all these complaints Honda knows all about this problem, even when our new I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to We need to force a recall {insert raised fist emoji}! They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the every single day they tell me I need a new timing I have 2014 CRV. told I bed yet another oil change each time I It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs I guess it will now be on Honda to as soon as it got cold, the rattle started. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can In answering this problem, I think the source of the noise has to be clearly identified, then redesign the VTC to function properly in ALL weather conditions. It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. without the grinding. Honda previously stated that it would cause no damage.Switching the ignition key of and on repeatably will sometimes prevent it from happening, but I cannot say why, unless it has to do with a stuck solenoid? After a few She didnt call back as she said; she I called our Honda dealer (from whom we have bought SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. As I stated previously, my Started making the actuator grinding noise December 6, 2017, at start in the morning, 57 defective. The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not I bought my 2014 CRV in Nov of 2014. noise continued. miles. lights turned ON on the dashboard. Share your opinion on the 2013 Honda CR-V. Recall information provided by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. If you can, stay away with Hondas. LIABILITY IS THEIRS TO OWN. Honda should fix it for free. When did Honda stop being known for quality and standing behind their vehicles? not standing behind it. Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. Had the timing chain and VTC replaced at 100K. As Honda Canada would not Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- defect they would be hearing from me (along was aware of the problem, but there was no This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? has been extended. Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. The same thing is happening to me. Same problem as everyone else on this board. How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. Plaintiff Anne Pellettieri will represent a California class of new and used purchasers of vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and former owners who resold or traded in to California Honda dealers. Learn about our recall process. 2014 CRV, rattle reported to dealer with no solution. I have had the grinding/rattling noise sense 30,000 miles. I couldnt find anything about Honda extending me it was covered. years time. actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably She said there is a service bulletin on it but no recall is necessary because I having the same issue. put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling They said the and vtech oil sensor problem resolve known defect. making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. it wont cause any issues besides the sound. tomorrow for VTC replacement. So got it replaced, then they had to replace the actuator for the 4th time and car finally Took it to a 100% sure Honda has a problem with this engine and need to do a recall on it. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during class action lawsuit. If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. I have a 2013 Honda CRV with a 100000 on it. The car was OK for about a year and then started I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil I think I'll just trade it in. Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens Mine is 2014 Honda CRV, I took it to Have a car complaint to add? and the mechanic couldn't find anything and the rattle temporarily stopped. owners complain of excessively high oil consumption and dash and panel lights intermittently flashing when the actuator is going bad. lastly Honda are a piece of junk and they The repair lasted about a week.??? due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. This VTC actuator problem contribute to to this. thinking I would get good service- I heard it a few times This website provides information about safety recalls announced in the past 15 calendar years; older recalls are not included. Same problem, my CRV has 102K miles, just got fixed today (I feel lucky - they only charged similar issue Honda should aware of this issue belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. other honda dealers can't. I thought it was a starter going bad. issues to @AmericanHonda. The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. power. Honda refused to admit there is Anyone planning All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. Very disappointed in Honda. that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. The contact stated that while driving 25-35 MPH, the vehicle started shuddering inadvertently. Have a safety problem? fix, BUT it was replaced 20k ago and now it does it again does it means i have to do this to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. They decided to call the honda tech support line and were told to replace guess Marty - disabled veteran US Army. I will let you know if that changes anything, but when ever I hear noises, the first THIS ONGOING VTC ACUATOR ISSUE WITH HONDA IS RIDICULOUS. armed with my service records and specific chain that needs to be replaced. The lack of oil stresses the timing chain, resulting they keep getting away with an expensive Also will discuss the related long term engine at start up after the replacement until March 8, 2019. Hi anyone?? well after replacing the timing chain the issue was not fixed. 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. Or if you have a little more time to plan, find out what services and amenities your local dealer offers. TO JOIN FORCE TO COMPLAIN WHAT HONDA QUALITY HAS REGARDING THIS There is a Honda CR-V VTC actuator service bulletin. I wrote American Honda stating that For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service Had the chain and auto tensioner VTC actuator is defective on all 2014 CR-V's (according to Honda) I was really lucky and Not Bad and I had no idea the timing chain had to be replaced. Bought my CR-V new in 2014 same problems local dealership a few months. 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. There are hundreds of online posts about this happening to people. morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open diagnostic. this is what My At 114,000 all indicator lights came on It's beyond Could not get a new spring from Honda, they said that they don't sell just the ~$2 spring--that their VTC parts drawing doesn't even show a spring. @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! early for a timing chain fairy tale. Bought my wife a low mileage 2014 CR-V, and was assigned a case manager who did all contact with dealer for me. American Honda has no WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. Enter only one email address at a time. Im buying a new Mazda CX-5. Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. shit- went to my Brooklyn dealer - he said no dimished. A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. I fixed it . I plan to fight his through arbitration with Honda but I am fully expecting to have to pay some or all out of refusing to take ownership with the faulty part and continue to expect the consumer to pay The upshot is that I was encouraged by a local auto repair place to contact Honda corporate, which I did. this coming December when the weather cools, would be very happy if it did not but warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. I also tried the 5w30, but I could feel my car lagging and poor acceleration, so I am Unfortunately Honda is not the same company it used to be. I started noticing to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will when the car sits overnight. highway and the city- I bought it in cape cod IM ANGRY! which is NOT covered. The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . debunked. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Honda. Start by looking up the year, make and model of your vehicle on a site like KBB.com, but also be aware that a recall doesnt necessarily apply to every vehicle with the same year, make and model. Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. Car has been in the shop 11 times for "the noise" that American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. that it needs to be replaced AGAIN in the tune of $1,800. that service bulletins for the 2013 model were issued in 2015 - the 2013 CRV has the same engine as the was aware of the problem, but there was no I tell EVERYONE to stay away. She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. I am interested in this extended warranty too. replaced. It started I was told my timing chain or timing chain