He is the recipient of building relationships with some of the most precious people in the world. I agree. Wade is one of the most open people that I know. Additionally, I believe there is a bible verse about not muzzling the wolves. no need to join the lurkers. At that point, youd have been within your rights to say Hey, we didnt make that much. The policy you are describing, though, is drawn from secular corporations. This is a fringe benefit that I will never forget. We all need to save!" In the Presbyterian churches that I know, the pastors salary is publicly made known (including benefits) in an annual meeting of the churches members. Read our republishing, terms of use and privacy policies here. And prayer?? The pastor is responsible to God and the church to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ, to teach the Bible, and to provide Christian leadership to all areas . Lady Preacher: And unless its a fairly big church, they may not pay for social security, health insurance, or retirement. But it is your blog, and I know youll do what you believe is best. Ronnie Floyd will allegedly be making more than governors of most states. He explicitly said that he did not want to be a burden to the Body of Christ, and while he was capable, kept working hard while ministering. Mt. When did cricket become Wartburgs national sport? He tipped a waitress $400, but couldnt find it in his heart to buy a mattress?! I believe that the industry may be driving up the expectations for high salaries., ______________________________________________________________________. Presumably if they didnt find the experience worth what they were paying, they would pay less. To everyone in the congregation it looked like we made A LOT more money than we did. Now we all know why James MacDonald said Congregational government is from Satan. He didnt want church committees poking around they might have discovered his black fund and assorted other misbehavings. All rights reserved. I have seen the hunger of a lost continent and world who are crying out for authentic Christianity. JMac is the category of celebrity that scares me, but not his salary. The Mississippi National Baptist Convention shall be a body of baptized believers in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost and shall promote Spirituality, Humility, Accountability, Respectability, and Encouragement (S.H.A.R.E) to all mankind at home and in foreign fields, according to the Power of the Holy Spirit. Download: New Rochelle, NY - Senior Pastor - Shiloh Baptist Church. all Calvinists/Reformed whatevers. Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre (money), but of a ready mind (1 Peter 5:2). Applications will be accepted until March 28, 2023. In the spirit of abiding with the wishes of those who hold me accountable, but wanting to be as transparent as possible, I have been at Emmanuel for almost 28 years and make 5 times less than the Ex. He sees churches get excited about missions and evangelism. Heck, my womens group lives in equal fear of members and the IRS. However, let me end this by saying that I think $500,000 is excessive for Ronnie Floyds new position even though Im sure he is a nice guy. Tolbert is the 15th president of the 3.5-million-member convention. The position will remain open until the position is filled. The story of Hophni and Phineas in the OT who were priests who misused the offerings of Gods people is instructive. See https://www.conservatorscenter.org/2018/08/03/carnivores-for-healthy-planet/. If there is a God, he/she/it will not be found in organizations like this. Never the less, they are Preist of God. Very easy to say dont cringe its the right of the people. 23 Do you think I enjoy seeing evil people die? asks the Sovereign Lord. I might even go back to church. 30 Frank Page is president of the Southern Baptist Convention and pastor of First Baptist Church in Taylors, S.C. 2023 Southern Baptist Convention. We ought not to twist Scripture to make it say what we want it to say. He answered that it was harder to run a corporation during the bad times. That said, I would suggest folks read an article I once wrote about a disgruntled church member at Emmanuel who since the experience I had with him, has become one of the biggest supporters of our churchs ministry (and of me). Why shouldnt we suspect that the salary is too high if they refuse to tell us? In addition, HOW salaries of this sort are paid can be problematic, In Bobs case, even the vestry doesnt see the line item detail for salaries, so there is virtually no oversight. Maybe if he hadnt bought the mansion, VW, ATVs and Rolexes, shot captive exotic game, and gambled he would have had a little left from his black funds to help the needy? The world is waiting for a super Godly, super powerful, super influential preacher who doesnt get much money. I think the annual announcement of the salary is great. Wade Burleson: Any and every church member can ask the Personnel Committee Chairman for salary information, and it will be given fully and freely. Abuse deserves criticism. Its an intriguing battle honours about even so far. Apparently, that job pays well). With a history over 100 years, Shiloh Baptist Church has been a pillar of the community serving Gods people with strength, perseverance and an unshakeable faith. I think as soon as finances are a secret, its a red flag. Only the boys at the top are sitting pretty. Although this journey gets challenging, we must continue the mission and vision of NBCA, Tolbert said in a statement. We pigs are brainworkers. Im not. There you go, thats a tithe. It is also about basic fairness for good-hearted folks who keep a place running. I would like to know if I could find out what the salaries are. In this and other matters of governance, the ruling elders (taken, of course, from active members) make a lot of the decisions, and it helps tremendously in holding the teaching elders (pastors) accountable to the church. ; financial management, records keeping, HR. Low level staff serving in churches which richly compensate senior pastors develop demands for higher salaries. However, the SBC understands optics and JD Greear is supposedly moving full steam ahead to *do something. People should be allowed to choose, and empowered to make informed choices. . We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. In addition to having a ThM and a PhD, I have a BS in engineering from Ga Tech. Dr. Smith is a member of the historic New Bethel Baptist Church in Detroit, Michigan. Sumothats a lot of potential chafing. dee: I wonder if the news media has ever looked into this. **when ye come together,** Olive Baptist Church, Dayton, OH - Senior Pastor - Calvary Missionary Baptist Church, Cleveland, OH - Senior Pastor - Historic Greater Friendship Baptist Church, Nashville, TN - Pastor - First Baptist Church South Inglewood, Gadsden, AL - Pastor - Shiloh Baptist Church, St. Louis, MO - Senior Pastor - Mount Zion Missionary Baptist Church Christian Complex, Montgomery, AL - Youth Pastor - Freewill Baptist Church, Flint, MI - Pastor - House of Prayer Missionary Baptist Church, Indianapolis, IN - Associate Pastor of Youth and Young Adults - Mount Pleasant Missionary Baptist Church, Steelton, PA - Pastor - Mount Zion Missionary Baptist Church, Centreville, VA - Senior Pastor - Mount Olive Baptist Church, Forth Worth, TX - Pastor - New Beth Eden Missionary Baptist Church, Pomona, CA - Senior Pastor - Antioch Missionary Baptist Church, Camden, NJ - Executive Minister - First Nazarene Baptist Church, Cincinnati, OH - Pastor - Zion Baptist Church, Colorado Springs, CO - Pastor - St. John's Baptist Church, New Rochelle, NY - Senior Pastor - Shiloh Baptist Church, Pontiac, MI - Pastor - Providence Missionary Baptist Church, Marietta, GA - Youth & Young Adults Pastor - Zion Baptist Church, Charlotte, NC - Associate Pastor of Ministries - Greater Providence Baptist Church, Charleston, SC - Pastor - Morris Street Baptist Church, Nashville, TN - Senior Pastor - Fifteenth Avenue Baptist Church, Atlanta, GA - Senior Pastor - Friendship Baptist Church, Wichita, KS - Senior Pastor - Tabernacle Baptist Church, Cleveland, OH - Senior Pastor - St. Timothy Missionary Baptist Church, New Orleans, LA - Youth & Young Adult Pastor - Franklin Avenue Baptist Church, Jamaica, NY - Senior Pastor - Shiloh Baptist Church of Jamaica. Its now people donating to institutions who are more interested in developing funds and keeping secrets from those donors than sharing the gospel. Muff Potter: Last I heard, they crucified him. Fax: 877.830.8533, "Envisioning the Future Exceptionally through Our Commitment to Christian Stewardship", Dr. Jerry Young, President, 2014 Present, ONLINE Application for Concessions Commission Booth, National Day of Prayer (Womans Auxiliary) 2018, Visiting Minister Engagements for the NBC Congress in OKC 2018, Congress Souvenir Ad Journal Deadline Extended: Sunday, April 1, 2018, Married to the former Ms. Helen Akins since 1974, Two Daughters: Jerlen (Matthew K.) 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