On one hand, Progressive is what I would call progressively traditional, and Salem is traditionally progressive. Great! I also understand how a personal relationship strengthens that love; that is the importance of us having relationships in the body of Christ. Saddleback Church doubles down on support for female pastors, Mormonisms slow shift away from demonizing working mothers, Faith leaders urge Biden to sign executive order for reparations study by Juneteenth, For many congregations, wiping out medical debt has become a popular calling. But dozens of majority-black churches are joining the SBC each year, so the numbers are still growingjust not as fast as they once were. On one hand, the legacy has to continue. I believe now that the time has come for me to yield to a younger person.. "It's time for Salem to move forward. Its more than just Progressive and Salem. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Im working to discern Gods direction as it relates to timing of when to conclude. I cant speak much about Salem Baptist Church (other than its known in the Black community here in Chicago due to its sheer size), but I do know Progressive. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. His wife Kirstie also followed up to pray with me and further encourage me. @progressivechicago | @charliedates |. Charlie has 1 job listed on their profile. . Services Progressive Baptist Church SUNDAYS AT PROGRESSIVE We'd love for you to join us at our Sunday Services! Could you describe your relationship with Meeks? Before his call to Progressive, he served as an apprentice pastor at New Zion Baptist Church in Rockford, Illinois, and as a pastor at Salem Baptist Church in Chicago. I adore Charlie Dates BECAUSE of how he and his wife PERSONALLY ministered to me when I needed it. So, I propose to you that we need a new organism, not led in full by white men; a Christian collective that makes room for the essentials of the faith and the diversity of the Church; a robust engine that finances the impoverished sides of the Church, speaks justice courageously to the government and cares gently for the oppressed, marginalized and women. "Not only is he called, but he is qualified or educated. But there is nothing wrong with loving those who I do have personal relationships with, and have really left an impact on my faith, family, and heart. How has God moved and worked in ones life? Charlie has also led Progressive in being a very put faith into action church here in the Chicago Black community. . "We believe now that the time has come for us to step aside, for us to yield to new younger leadership," Meeks said. Get the most recent headlines and stories from Christianity Today delivered to your inbox daily. 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By clicking Accept All, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. The young pastor said he had to convince his members that joining the denomination for the sake of mission partnerships would be a good move. And thats part of the beauty I think of this story. And while Progressive is a large congregation (around 1000 members), it doesnt come close to Salem (which has about 10,000). I see the Pauline example in the Gospel of teachers/leaders being figures that we seek and respect for guidance and direction and boundaries, and not necessarily the same functions that friends and family (in or outside of the church) perform. Just goes to show that even in this day and age, after all thats happened, megachurches still value butts in the seats and the almighty dollar over holding celebrity pastors accountable for their actions and character. How did they, who in 2020 still dont have a single Black denominational entity head, reject once and for all a theory that helps to frame the real race problems we face? Dates wrote in an op-ed Friday for the Religion News Service. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. Pastor Charlie Dates is the Senior Pastor of The Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, Illinois. I think the distinction is that I can serve Salem well by loving her through the preaching ministry and pastoral care, and she will follow. He's trained to fight the giants that we're dealing with today. Cancel culture is wrong but shouldnt we have heard something about it at least? But there are others who sit close to power within the SBC and who are silent against the racism that plagues their own congregations. If you have legal questions, attorneys will be available to help you at the legal clinic. This shaped his approach to preaching and his thoughts about the transformative role the Black church plays in bringing about the flourishing of a people.Dr. Warren announced his intention to retire last year after over 40 years of ministry and began the search for "the next-generation pastor.". Their stand against racism rings hollow when in their next breath they reject theories that have been helpful in framing the problem of racism, he wrote, disappointed that the presidents would come together to speak out against it rather than turning their criticism toward other ills such a racism itself. Perhaps you are taking on a worldly definition of love? Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago | Chicago IL If I idolized him, dont you think Id have followed him to his church YEARS ago when I first me him? Dates to speak at your next event, please complete the Speaker Request form. Dr. Senior Pastor at Progressive Baptist Church - Chicago . So he is going to pastor two large churches in addition to teaching at several colleges. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. But I do sense and feel that a lot of the progress that Ive been able to make in the pastorate is connected in some way to his tutelage, his leadership, and his spiritual fathering, so to speak. Dr. Charlie Edward Dates is Senior Pastor at Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, IL. Pretty sure there were no consequences whatsoever for him over it. That is absolutely a legitimate human need but I just dont see it as within the job description of a servant-leader of men in the Epistles. While I do not know much about Charlie Dates, it has becoming increasingly true that the higher you rise the harder you fall.. Datess 100-year-old congregation only began affiliating with the SBC last year, joining as a dual affiliate with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mainline, African American denomination. And I think we can develop a platform, a pipeline to invite those who feel that burden of call to grow them and to release them to do that," he added. Dates called him an Uncle Ruckus on twitter, which is a derogatory slur used to describe a black man that embraces the whiteness of society instead of resisting it. My response to the above is that that kind of filling of your personal needs, i.e. Meeks' retirement comes at a time when many longtime church leaders have been transitioning out of leadership as they contend with dwindling attendance and other ministry upheavals laid bare by the COVID-19 pandemic. Our PBC Teens are highly engaged in biblical teaching and discussion on how to navigate a Christian life amongst their peers. Thats the good ol boys club. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. Pastor Charlie Dates speaks at Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago. . It does not store any personal data. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. After 11 years at Progressive and watching more than 1,000 people join that church in that time, its fair to say that I carry the DNA of both churches. . SBC events and church planting have grown more diverse over the past decade as leaders made a concerted effort to feature and invest in non-Anglo pastors. But it would be foolish to assume its humanly possible to do this in and of myself. It was the first time to my knowledge that white evangelicals had celebrated in concert the life, memory and work of the Rev. The church actually changed the face of that community, he says. As I prayed through it, Reverend Meeks and I wrestled with it, and he graciously affirmed my sense of discernment. To a visitor entering the Northwest Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois, on a recent Sunday, the assembly might have sounded like, The Rev. Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago, under the leadership of Charlie E. Dates, is a. Dr. Charlie Dates will take his place. Hi. Rev. How do you use that significance, and history of these two churches in the city, to drive the future? After the retirement of its founder James Meeks, fellow South Side pastor Charlie Dates will become senior pastor of one of Chicagos biggest megachurches, Salem Baptist Church, returning to the ministry that shaped him as a kid and succeeding one of his greatest mentors in the faith. Image courtesy of Baptist Press. "It's Alright to Cry"| Pastor Charlie Dates | Progressive Chicago by Pastor Charlie Dates. Join us before worship service on Sunday, March 19th directly following service. Were living in a time where so many young people are walking away from the church and where church attendance numbers are in the dumps. I left that conference feeling hopeful. Facebook/Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago, Pastor Charlie Dates (R) and Rev. With no repentance of any kind and such bald-faced pride in his sin, it bears questioning whether Dates ever had a regenerative, salvific transformation in his heart to begin with. All rights reserved. and Ph.D. at Trinity Evangelical Divinity . These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Susan Robinson is a 100-year-old Black woman and lifelong member of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, where I am senior . How has he influenced you? Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". Walk-ins are welcome but appointments are preferred. Our city and our nation need the black church to be her best and brightest self and now is the time for churches to be strong," he said. But he added God is extending our platform and our reach to the point where Ill be able to provide pastoral leadership for both churches. I go where God leads me not Charlie Dates. Two things. Im just saying that at the juncture were in and being a son of the soil of Chicago and a son of Salem, and now having pastored Progressive, I just think I have a unique understanding and relational dynamic with both churches. . Dates also served on Salem's ministry team for a while before leaving in 2011 to serve as the leader of Progressive Baptist Church. That is a concerning statement. One of the benefits at Progressive is that the operations of the church and systems and structures of the church, the day-to-day operations, are free to move independent of me. fellowship and personal friendship, could have been met by a holy man of Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any other world religionor by a secular counselor or self-help advocate. Rev. Dates added that the transition will start in January 2023. He told his trustees to uphold the slaveholder for whom his college is named. The statement on critical race theory and intersectionality has soiled that good faith.. The beauty of this narrative is that the Lord, in his kindness and his grace, has taken pastors and churches to develop me. He also told him hes still willfully acting like hes a slave because he rejects CRT. Im still surprised Charlie Dates wasnt forced to step down after he publicly used a racial slur against Virgil Walker on social media last year. How did they, who in 2020 still dont have a single Black denominational entity head, reject once and for all a theory that helps to frame the real race problems we face? 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Salem Baptist is one of several megachurches whose pastors are passing the baton. If, however, I fail to get the churches to see that our history serves our present and inspires our future, then Im in trouble. 3658 SOUTH WENTWORTH AVENUE, CHICAGO, IL, 60609, 773-268-6048 | INFO@PROGRESSIVECHICAGO.ORG. Every church that lives in the past is already anchoring itself in the graveyard of history. Many cannot even define what CRT is, he tweeted. Photo courtesy of Progressive Baptist Church. Well, the Stewardship Ministry at ProgressiveChicago is excited to partner with The YWCA and Liberty Bank to offer a 6 hour in-person or virtual homebuyer's workshop. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. Pastoral leadership is a storied pillar in both of these churches. In 2011, at age 30, he became the youngest Senior Pastor in Progressive's rich 99-year history. Pastor Charlie Dates of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago lamented, "This is a very tiring conversation, not simply because of the events of recent weeks, but because this has been a 401-year . No one knows. Sign up for our newsletter: Yesterday, Charlie Dates, the Senior Pastor at Chicago's Progressive Baptist Church, gave a powerful biblical message addressing the recent killings of Auhmad Aubrey, Breonna Taylor, and George Floyd. He teaches preaching at Wheaton College and serves as an Affiliate Professor of the Baylor University George W. Truett Theological Seminary and as Affiliate . I had to tell my church I was wrong. While continuing to lead Progressive Baptist, the 41-year-old pastor was named the successor to James Meeks at Salem Baptist Church, one of the citys biggest congregations. . These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. When I came to Progressive, it took me a while to actually get my feet under me because of some of the history and nature of the church, and it required a lot of patience and long-suffering initially. Stephanie Martin, a freelance writer and editor in Denver, has spent her entire 30-year journalism career in Christian publishing. Everybody loves our old, respected leaders but I want to set an example that its okay to give the next generation an opportunity, Meeks adds. The Rev. I ADORE Charlie Dates. Photo courtesy of Charlie Dates. How do Salem Baptist and Progressive Baptist compare, and what makes you a fit for both congregations at this moment? How are you hoping to continue to cultivate that with both congregations? RELATED: Southern Baptist seminary presidents nix critical race theory. What is liberalism to the conservative Southern Baptists? Sarah Einselen is an award-winning writer and editor based in Texas. Progressive Baptist Church, a century-old historically Black congregation, was briefly part of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). He was also on staff at Salem Baptist for five years as Meeks preaching assistant before becoming Progressives youngest-ever senior pastor at age 30. What challenges do you anticipate with the dynamic of pastoring two congregations? I want to be clear though, Im not saying Im the only Timothy he has, in the same way that Paul had others. 11,909 were here. I am more of a vision-casting, preaching, pastoral care pastor. And how have you begun planning to deal with those challenges? Im not saying that Im perfect, forever, for both churches. If you sense the malaise around Christian denominations, then you already yearn for a new vision and a new standard. Meeks, who is now 65 and served three terms as a state senator, told his congregation that he will preach his final sermon on Jan. 8, 2023, just five days before the church's 38th anniversary. If that is YOUR definition of ministering to someone (because that is the language I used, and you jumped to that conclusion), YOU need to revisit it. If Charlie Dates indeed used a racial slur (just last year), that does call into fitness his ability to do any of the above. What other things do you want to highlight to your current and future congregations and the readers of CT? They are ready to see their young adopt the very vestiges of hate that enslaved us in the name of Gods authoritative word. Speaking with CT, Dates drew parallels to Paul and Timothy, referencing Pauls instructions to the younger leader based on what he had witnessed firsthand in ministry. If we could look at the current moment and seize the opportunity to develop young people that God has laid his hand upon, then I think the best days of the church, in this critical culture, are in front of us. That history is enormous. Not able to make? It is the work of that church, but its also Reverend Meeks, the pastor of that church. Progressive Service Time 9:30am 3658 S Wentworth Ave, Chicago Coming Up. (Dr. Charlie Edward Dates is the senior pastor at Chicagos Progressive Baptist Church. He was elected in March by an overwhelming majority, the largest vote received by any pastor in Progressive's rich history. He is a contributing author to Letters To A Birmingham Jail and Say It: Celebrating Expository Preaching in the African American Tradition, and is currently working on his first single-authored book on Christianity and Social Justice. But some have grown frustrated with their position in a denomination that remains largely white (African Americans make up just 6 percent of Southern Baptists, according to Pew Research Center). That somehow God grants the capacity and that God grants the resources and support. Its no longer that waywe are very much in the community nowbut thats the way it was. We haveI thinka very Paul and Timothy kind of relationship. Meeks serves on the Moody Bible Institute Trustee Board, and Dates has worked as an adjunct professor there. He hijacked the affirmation meeting of the Baptist Faith & Message, turning it into a conservative resurgence revival. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? To learn more about how you can begin or deepen a relationship with Jesus Christ, visit us at ProgressiveChicago.org . In his June 19 sermon, he told congregants hes retiring as of January 15, 2023, and the Rev. I dont see anything wrong with loving those who Christ calls us to love, which includes our brothers and sisters in Christ (that includes pastors). When Albert Mohler, the president of the Southern Baptist Seminary, said the only politically moral option for Christians was the Republican Party, I asked other SBC leaders, good Christian men, to challenge him. I had the privilege of not only hearing him preach as a guest speaker at my church, but also meeting him after a singles event hosted by Progressive. And Im not sure how bringing up holy men of other faiths comes into it I was at a Christian event seeking Biblically-rooted ministry, and thats what Pastor Dates and his wife provided. Its one thing to adore someone you dont have any personal relationship with. Meeks called Dates the greatest preacher in our nation. Progressive is a church of five generations. Now we have 2 churches thinking only one particular man can lead them. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". And God has blessed us with our own son as the churchs next pastor. The only outcome can be from their life experience, which really ignores the broader family of Southern Baptists.. Chicago Pastor James Meeks to Retire, Pass Baton to Rev. The leaders of two majority-black megachurches in major cities announced this week that they will no longer affiliate with the Southern Baptist Convention. The resistance, especially from some of our elderly membership, was swift and sincere. My acknowledgement of this is not a statement of submission, but an act of defiance. Their seminaries have hosted outstanding guest faculty and chapel speakers outside of their norm. James Meeks announced Sunday that Pastor Charlie Dates of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago will succeed him as leader of the 10,000-member Salem Baptist Church of Chicago when he steps out of the role in January 2023. Progressive Baptist Church. I have to lead through my leaders. Wow, I never knew this, did TRR ever do an expose of this incident? The two churches will remain separate, and he plans on preaching two sermons each Sunday. Hope youll give us another try and check out some other articles. Shes ready to work. From 2016 to 2019, too, I preached on the campuses of four of the SBC seminaries and had been invited to another. "We can multiply that in evangelism, in discipleship, in educating our kids in reducing violence, shutting down liquor stores and opening up new opportunities to help rescue families and that's the church being the church.". Another thing is I dont think this dual assignment is in perpetuity. Dr. Charlie Dates became the youngest senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago in 2011 at age 30. Thats the old SBC. Something is lost when a pastor becomes distanced from 99% of his church. We want to see our church grow. Children are a gift from God. He graduated with a PhD in historical theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. From your posts (especially the prior one to this), it almost seems like your biggest qualification for a pastor is whether he or she makes you feel good; warm and fuzzy. For the second time in two days, a prominent Black pastor has publicly quit the Southern Baptist Convention over its seminary presidents' campaign against Critical Race Theory. I think that there is a place in the body of Christ for large and small churches alike; I have been a member of both at various points in my walk with Christ, and can speak to the benefits and challenges of both. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Our seminaries, many of them are in decline. I dont know if Id recommend this to anybody. Its evangelism, its benevolence, its disciple-making have all been very Christo-centric and rooted in the Scriptures. They are good men who are sending a big message to the SBC, said Marshal Ausberry. We are not merging the two churches and Salem is not absorbing Progressive, Dates said. Salem has its own kind of DNA, Progressive her own . The head of the SBCs National African American Fellowship, which had raised concerns about the critical race theory statement a week ago, said he was saddened by the announcements. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". When I came back home to Southwestern, I even encouraged other ministers to do the same. (RNS) In 2018, something happened at the MLK50 Conference in Memphis, an event co-hosted by the Southern Baptist Conventions policy arm and The Gospel Coalition. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Meeks has led the African American congregation, now at nearly 10,000 members, since its founding in 1985. Charlie Dates is pastor of the Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago. Before his call to Progressive, he served as an apprentice pastor at New Zion Baptist Church in Rockford, Illinois, and as a pastor at Salem Baptist Church in Chicago. Progressive Baptist Church is part of the Organizations industry, and located in Illinois, United States. None of our denominations, Black or white, are as relevant and biblically prophetic as our present age requires. Its a sensitive time for both congregations, and I want to convey as they read this my love for both of them. It just isnt where God has me in this season of my life (yet). You see many people who are guilty of holding onto positions too long, he says. Dates explained he saw rejecting CRT as part of a continuing heritage of dangerous conservatism.. Feel free to watch our services online! Dates preaches at the 2019 African American Preaching Conference. Conservatism is, and has always been, the god of the SBC. That is a concerning statement. Book your appointment here. Through his passion for learning, living, and teaching the Gospel, Dr. Charlie serves as an Affiliate Professor at Baylor University- George W. Truett Theological Seminary, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, and Wheaton College. But we can actually press into the current culture and lead our young people and train them to lead a revolution for the kingdom and the glory of God. If you have legal questions, attorneys will be available to help you at the legal clinic. These have been disciple-making churches with an emphasis on Christian education. The Social Justice Ministry is here to help through our Gospel Justice Center Legal Clinic. Progressive got insulated at one point. When did those who have yet to hire multiple Black or brown faculty at their seminaries assume ethical authority on the subject of systemic injustice? In a video of the announcement, Meeks said after he and his wife fasted and prayed about the succession of the ministry, they felt confident in selecting Dates. Pastor Charlie Dates speaks at Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago. Wests The Church Without Walls (originally Brookhollow Baptist Church) has ranked among the 100 biggest in the country and averages 9,000 people in weekly attendance, according to its site.
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